Why Should We Care How Indo-Pacific Allies Manage a Volatile and Distracted America?
About This Episode
Ray and Jim speak with Marise Payne, Australia’s former defense and foreign minister, on alliance management in an era of strategic uncertainty, examining AUKUS and the Quad, ASEAN engagement, China’s regional posture and how middle powers balance diplomacy, defense and self-reliance as U.S. leadership grows less predictable.
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